Pinned 💠 𝕆𝔽𝔽𝕀ℂ𝕀𝔸𝕃 KARAOKE ENTHUSIAST CHAT

[DaedalusWren]

And this

 

HERE

FASTTRAX

[scottyam]

Anyone got

mch21au

mch21su

mch23au

[DaveyDee]

Anyone got

mch21au

mch21su

mch23au

You will find those releases in my MR ENTERTAINER share, in the MR ENTERTAINER CHART HITS UPDATE folder.

 

The folder contains all the MCH releases, just choose the ones you wish to download.

 

In that share you wiill also find a large collection of the other MR ENTERTAINER releases...

[billy1]

Hey DaveyDee! Going back over your STTW Upload, you might be missing these:

 

HERE

[sacot1]

FBK New Replacement Quality Upgrades

[DaveyDee]

Hey DaveyDee! Going back over your STTW Upload, you might be missing these:

 

HERE

Just checked, all the releases you put in there are in the STTW share.

 

The only differences are naming conventions

[BJtheDJ]

I'll just drop this

 

HERE

 

Demon Music Group

There are a couple of other sets as well which are primarily music

sets, but which include a karaoke DVD which I've ripped to MP4.

 

DMG100038 Halloween and DMG100177 Christmas

 

You can download either or both from HERE.

Edited December 6, 2023 by BJtheDJ

[billy1]

Just checked, all the releases you put in there are in the STTW share.

 

The only differences are naming conventions

Ok, thanks for checking that out. Wondered if it was just a naming issue. Sorry to make you do that extra work!

[DaveyDee]

Ok, thanks for checking that out. Wondered if it was just a naming issue. Sorry to make you do that extra work!

Not a problem...

 

I generally find the easiest way to check if there are naming issues when dealing with MEGA folders is to just search for one or two tracks that you believe may be missing... If the tracks are found, with the same track numbers but a different Disc ID, (or even with the same Disc ID in the case of some of the STTW tracks!) it is usually indicative of the two different ways the individual discs can be identified.

 

STTW are a classic example of this naming convention, where they 'invent' a specific 'Virtual ID', that only exists in relation to the Set cover, but the physical discs have their own Disc ID, i.e. 3193/3194/3195, or the release ID of the set, 3192...

[DaveyDee]

Just in case anyone has been following the recent conversation between Billy and I, here is a little clarification:

 

At one time, when I was building my collection, I used to purchase all my CDG's from a couple of retail outlets.

 

In the case of Sing To The World, I would regularly buy their Loaded and KJ Pro single discs, as well as their speciality packs.

 

This being the 'Pre-Digital' era, all the tracks were listed in my songbooks with the Disc ID of the disc, as an indication to me in which of the many cases, (at the time of going digital, 20 Gator padded disc cases!) I could find the specific disc.

 

When I went digital for the first time, I opted to set up my folders using Release ID's, with sub-folders for the individual discs using their own specific Disc ID's.

 

As time went on, and more people started selling their physical disc collections on online auction sites, I started to purchase single discs, disc packs, entire collections and even downloading items shared within the KJ community (slaps wrist!)

 

Obviously, when you obtain discs not in their original packs, it can sometimes be a hit and miss affair to know what the correct ID should be, and in the case of shares, even if they have been named correctly in the first place!

 

I think we all try our best to name our shares as accurately as we can, but there are occasions where mis-naming of tracks occurs through no fault of our own.

 

Reliance on disc listing software is not always the best method either, as quite often their databases are populated from information submitted by their user base, and there are times where inaccurate data is submitted, and proper due-diligence is not carried out by the software authors when publishing their databases!

[BJtheDJ]

<Big Snip>

 

Reliance on disc listing software is not always the best method either, as quite often their databases are populated from information submitted by their user base, and there are times where inaccurate data is submitted, and proper due-diligence is not carried out by the software authors when publishing their databases!

 

Worst by far was the old granny that ran KJpro, who invented prefixes accoring to

what she thought that they should be !!

 

Legends, hmmm what should we prefix those with - I know we'll ignore the LEG prefix

that's on some of the discs and use LG, ignoring the fact that there's a Legends Gold

series with LG catalog numbers appearing on the labels (I have 22 of those nujbering

up to 28 - anybody got any of the missing ??)

 

Just Tracks?? Let's make it easy to confuse everybody and call them PSJT because

they're the same company - but we'll ignore the other PS series and give them their

proper prefixes.

 

Her thinking was tortuous and unnecessarilly illogical.

 

It was KJpro that started the habit of removing [ The ] and [ A ] from the beginnings

of titles and tacking them onto the end after a comma - confusing singers everywhere

that were looking for songs by their proper title - particularly annoying with two-word

titles.

 

Dammit, I've gone into rant mode - been up all night and it's 1pm and I've still not hit

the hay; my wunnerful wife will not be a happy bunny cos I'll be sleeping all afternoon.

Edited December 6, 2023 by BJtheDJ

[BJtheDJ]

<Big Snip>

 

STTW are a classic example of this naming convention, where they 'invent' a specific 'Virtual ID', that only exists in relation to the Set cover, but the physical discs have their own Disc ID, i.e. 3193/3194/3195, or the release ID of the set, 3192...

If anybody wants a list of STTW disc sets with their accompanying

disc nubers just let me know.

 

BTW, I also have a heap of STTW disc rips with no cover scans,

meaning that I have a lot of STTW folders with no accompanying

name next to the catalog number; anybody have names for some

of those that have been shared here untitled ??

[wilkinp4]

If anybody wants a list of STTW disc sets with their accompanying

disc nubers just let me know.

 

BTW, I also have a heap of STTW disc rips with no cover scans,

meaning that I have a lot of STTW folders with no accompanying

name next to the catalog number; anybody have names for some

of those that have been shared here untitled ??

BJ, I would be very grateful if you could post the naming conventions again for the STTWs, I must not have made a note of them last time.

 

I haven't come across any STTW with just Disc IDs, so I must have them named! I don't have the entire collection, but I am willing to help.

[DaveyDee]

<Big Snip Mk. II>

 

Dammit, I've gone into rant mode - been up all night and it's 1pm and I've still not hit

the hay; my wunnerful wife will not be a happy bunny cos I'll be sleeping all afternoon.

I know how you feel, being a partial insomniac myself (sometimes not wanting to go to sleep in case my CPAP decides to suffocate me during the night!) I tend to doze a lot during the day too.

 

Can't say my adorable other half of 40+ years is overly happy when that happens either, especially if she has plans for the day that she has conveniently forgotten to tell me (often insisting she has... ppphhhwwt!). I put it down to the lodger she appears to have in her head, a Mr. Al Zhiemer!

[Sharkie]

Worst by far was the old granny that ran KJpro, who invented prefixes accoring to

what she thought that they should be !!

 

Legends, hmmm what should we prefix those with - I know we'll ignore the LEG prefix

that's on some of the discs and use LG, ignoring the fact that there's a Legends Gold

series with LG catalog numbers appearing on the labels (I have 22 of those nujbering

up to 28 - anybody got any of the missing ??)

 

Just Tracks?? Let's make it easy to confuse everybody and call them PSJT because

they're the same company - but we'll ignore the other PS series and give them their

proper prefixes.

 

Her thinking was tortuous and unnecessarilly illogical.

 

It was KJpro that started the habit of removing [ The ] and [ A ] from the beginnings

of titles and tacking them onto the end after a comma - confusing singers everywhere

that were looking for songs by their proper title - particularly annoying with two-word

titles.

 

Dammit, I've gone into rant mode - been up all night and it's 1pm and I've still not hit

the hay; my wunnerful wife will not be a happy bunny cos I'll be sleeping all afternoon.

 

Hi BjtheDJ

 

I totally agree with you.

it would help if someone was to put up a list of how to name tracks.

And if everyone would fill in the Details rather than everyone that downloads them

it would save a lot of wasted time (I.E. 1 person Verses say 10 people)

I also add a tag at the end of tracks so too know what label it is I.E. [LEG] [sF] [sC] etc.

All of my Just Tracks are labeled that's how I got my first discs so I continued.

As for Legends Gold they as renamed discs from the main series as far as I can see

Is this correct??,

Do you have any I am missing ??

 

Legends Gold LG01 = LEG107

Legends Gold LG02 = LEG029

Legends Gold LG03 = LEG104

Legends Gold LG04 = LEG137

Legends Gold LG05 = LEG113

Legends Gold LG06 =

Legends Gold LG07 = LEG040

Legends Gold LG08 = LEG080

Legends Gold LG09 =

Legends Gold LG10 = LEG043

Legends Gold LG11 = LEG086

Legends Gold LG12 = LEG009

Legends Gold LG13 = LEG089

Legends Gold LG14 = LEG066

Legends Gold LG15 = LEG050

Legends Gold LG16 =

Legends Gold LG17 = LEG125

Legends Gold LG18 = LEG105

Legends Gold LG19 =

Legends Gold LG20 =

Legends Gold LG21 = LEG010

Legends Gold LG22 = LEG069

Legends Gold LG23 =

Legends Gold LG24 =

Legends Gold LG25 = LEG121

Legends Gold LG26 = LEG115

Legends Gold LG27 = LEG014

Legends Gold LG28 = LEG114

 

Many Thanks

[Sharkie]

And this

 

HERE

 

FASTTRAX

Hi There

 

https://mega.nz/folder/qIYWkDwa#An876UsavKPvL93zR3005w

Above is a link to some discs that were not in your upload

 

Enjoy

[Hazz]

man 2 man meets man parrish - male stripper

only retail version is Sunfly and its really crap.

So made my own to take me back to '87 in the north east of england.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Aj7_cRcq2TbY71_B3YGZczQPsuy7?e=c5KN5C

[DaveyDee]

Hi BjtheDJ

 

I totally agree with you.

it would help if someone was to put up a list of how to name tracks.

And if everyone would fill in the Details rather than everyone that downloads them

it would save a lot of wasted time (I.E. 1 person Verses say 10 people)

I also add a tag at the end of tracks so too know what label it is I.E. [LEG] [sF] [sC] etc.

All of my Just Tracks are labeled that's how I got my first discs so I continued.

As for Legends Gold they as renamed discs from the main series as far as I can see

Is this correct??,

Do you have any I am missing ??

 

Legends Gold LG01 = LEG107

Legends Gold LG02 = LEG029

Legends Gold LG03 = LEG104

Legends Gold LG04 = LEG137

Legends Gold LG05 = LEG113

Legends Gold LG06 =

Legends Gold LG07 = LEG040

Legends Gold LG08 = LEG080

Legends Gold LG09 =

Legends Gold LG10 = LEG043

Legends Gold LG11 = LEG086

Legends Gold LG12 = LEG009

Legends Gold LG13 = LEG089

Legends Gold LG14 = LEG066

Legends Gold LG15 = LEG050

Legends Gold LG16 =

Legends Gold LG17 = LEG125

Legends Gold LG18 = LEG105

Legends Gold LG19 =

Legends Gold LG20 =

Legends Gold LG21 = LEG010

Legends Gold LG22 = LEG069

Legends Gold LG23 =

Legends Gold LG24 =

Legends Gold LG25 = LEG121

Legends Gold LG26 = LEG115

Legends Gold LG27 = LEG014

Legends Gold LG28 = LEG114

 

Many Thanks

The biggest problem with adopting a non-standard naming convention is where confusion sets in.

 

There have been several attempts to re-design the wheel since KJ's moved away from a purely disc based system.

 

Some like Rigmar did away with Disc and Track ID's altogether, losing all that information for just a Manufacturer code at the end of the filename.

 

Different software houses tried to steer people towards different naming conventions, such as D-A-T, A-T-D, even reversing Artist Names to Last, First (which confuses things no end when there is no single convention for duet or multiple artist tracks). I remember seeing one track listed with the artists 'John, Olivia & Travolta, John, Newton' FFS!!!

 

I was always of the opinion that if the majority of Disc Producers were happy listing the Artist Names in First Last order, why confuse things turning things around for some irrelevant alphabetising purpose which in this day and age is totally pointless as search engines can find anything with the barest minimum of information, i.e. typing John West in the search box won't just give you a tin of tuna, it will also return 'John Legend and Kanye West - Number One' amongst others. (Rose West will give you 'Westlife - The Rose' as well as a serial killer!!)

 

Then you have the absurdity of swapping the order of title naming, moving ', A' or ', The' to the end of a title, but you never see titles listed as 'Englishman In New York, An' or 'Can't Take That Away From Me, They', or even 'Impossible, It's'.

[BJtheDJ]

And this

 

HERE

 

FASTTRAX

Looking thru my FTX directory I found that I made notes there as the company

name chopped and changed, starting as QuickHitz then changing to FastTrax

and then to Singer's Solution.

 

Notes in the FTX directory read as follows:

FTX015 on are SSP discs

FTX1000-FTX1013 are QH discs

FTX1022 on are SS discs

FTXC400-FTXC403 are QHC discs

FTXC418 on are SSC discs

 

Which translates to:

QH001 (2 different versions of that disc) to QH018

QH300 to QH338

QH1000 to QH1013 then FTX1014 to FTX1021 then SS1022 to SS1025;

 

NOTE: 1008 appears as both QH1008 and SS1008 with identical tracks.

 

QH also had two discs B09 and B10 (best of 2009 and 2010) which I have

saved as QHB098 and QHB10

QHC400 to QHC403 then FTXC404 to FTXC417 then SSC416 to SSC455

 

NOTE: 416 & 417 were issued as both FTXC and SSC

 

FTX001 is the same disc as QH338, different company label.

 

There are also QHDUETS and QHXMAS discs in the QH directory.

 

There's a disc in my SS directory listed as SSTS1989 a karaoke version of

Taylor Swifts '1989' album, the label is TS1989 with no brand on it; like

many of the QH/FTX/SS discs the label looks home printed. The person

that sent it to me back in September of 2915 told me it was a new SS

release.

 

It's fairly obvious that QHC, FTXC and SSC discs are all country.

QH19##, FT10## and SS10## are all single-artiste discs.

FTX~~~ discs look to be Pop, same with QH3##, SSP015 label is Pop.

 

I think that I'm 100% on all of those, have a very full few days in front

of me so haven't had the time to check completely, if you need any

then just LM.

[BJtheDJ]

The biggest problem with adopting a non-standard naming convention is where confusion sets in.

 

There have been several attempts to re-design the wheel since KJ's moved away from a purely disc based system.

 

Some like Rigmar did away with Disc and Track ID's altogether, losing all that information for just a Manufacturer code at the end of the filename.

 

Different software houses tried to steer people towards different naming conventions, such as D-A-T, A-T-D, even reversing Artist Names to Last, First (which confuses things no end when there is no single convention for duet or multiple artist tracks). I remember seeing one track listed with the artists 'John, Olivia & Travolta, John, Newton' FFS!!!

 

I was always of the opinion that if the majority of Disc Producers were happy listing the Artist Names in First Last order, why confuse things turning things around for some irrelevant alphabetising purpose which in this day and age is totally pointless as search engines can find anything with the barest minimum of information, i.e. typing John West in the search box won't just give you a tin of tuna, it will also return 'John Legend and Kanye West - Number One' amongst others. (Rose West will give you 'Westlife - The Rose' as well as a serial killer!!)

 

Then you have the absurdity of swapping the order of title naming, moving ', A' or ', The' to the end of a title, but you never see titles listed as 'Englishman In New York, An' or 'Can't Take That Away From Me, They', or even 'Impossible, It's'.

You forgot Mann, Manfred and Ferdinand, Franz :devilish:

[billy1]

Just checked, all the releases you put in there are in the STTW share.

 

The only differences are naming conventions

Thanks for the reply DaveyDee.

[BJtheDJ]

Hi BjtheDJ

 

I totally agree with you.

it would help if someone was to put up a list of how to name tracks.

And if everyone would fill in the Details rather than everyone that downloads them

it would save a lot of wasted time (I.E. 1 person Verses say 10 people)

I also add a tag at the end of tracks so too know what label it is I.E. [LEG] [sF] [sC] etc.

All of my Just Tracks are labeled that's how I got my first discs so I continued.

As for Legends Gold they as renamed discs from the main series as far as I can see

Is this correct??,

Do you have any I am missing ??

 

Legends Gold LG01 = LEG107

Legends Gold LG02 = LEG029

Legends Gold LG03 = LEG104

Legends Gold LG04 = LEG137

Legends Gold LG05 = LEG113

Legends Gold LG06 =

Legends Gold LG07 = LEG040

Legends Gold LG08 = LEG080

Legends Gold LG09 =

Legends Gold LG10 = LEG043

Legends Gold LG11 = LEG086

Legends Gold LG12 = LEG009

Legends Gold LG13 = LEG089

Legends Gold LG14 = LEG066

Legends Gold LG15 = LEG050

Legends Gold LG16 =

Legends Gold LG17 = LEG125

Legends Gold LG18 = LEG105

Legends Gold LG19 =

Legends Gold LG20 =

Legends Gold LG21 = LEG010

Legends Gold LG22 = LEG069

Legends Gold LG23 =

Legends Gold LG24 =

Legends Gold LG25 = LEG121

Legends Gold LG26 = LEG115

Legends Gold LG27 = LEG014

Legends Gold LG28 = LEG114

 

Many Thanks

Must be honest Sharkie, I never bothered to correlate LG against LEG, but can see it now

that you have pointed it out.

 

The last time that I could bother to look the LG's weren't listed in KSLC, but I can see that

Airwer lists them up to LG30 now.

 

List of how to name tracks, easy.

 

I use two conventions, one for regular discs and another for downloaded tracks

 

Regular discs: [Manufacturer's cat#]-[Track#] - [Artist] - [Title]

 

Downloaded tracks - I'm editing this 'cos I realised that I posted without typing this bit - I'll

cover DL trax tomorrow.

 

[Artist] If it's a band name starting with 'The' then I discard 'The' - unless it's The Who or The

The; but the The Jam are just Jam If a band's name starts with 'A' then it stays.

 

[Artist] Should be in the form [First Name] [Last Name]. Feat Feat. Featuring are all reduced

to ft and if in the title transferred to artist. Where there are featured guest artists I try to

be creative - but there's no way that I'll put a long list of them something like Joe Bloggs

& Fanny Fortnight ft King Kong & Prince William w~ (always w~ not <<with>>) somebody else

& his mother's best friend will get reduced to Joe Bloggs & Fanny Fortnight w~ friends

 

[Title] As is, except for non alpha-numeric symbols - ie where a name starts with a paragraph

marker viz. <<(Don't Fear) the Reaper>> where I delete the brackets or names that start with

a full stop (period) or an exclamation mark. I also ignore all of the all-upper or all-lower case

titles and capitalise them as normal.

 

Time to get back to bed, woke up and spent the last half hour or so bashing the keyboard

and sorting this out (poartially) in my head. May yet come back to it another time.

[DaedalusWren]

And this

 

Looking thru my FTX directory I found that I made notes there as the company

name chopped and changed, starting as QuickHitz then changing to FastTrax

and then to Singer's Solution.

 

Notes in the FTX directory read as follows:

FTX015 on are SSP discs

FTX1000-FTX1013 are QH discs

FTX1022 on are SS discs

FTXC400-FTXC403 are QHC discs

FTXC418 on are SSC discs

 

Which translates to:

QH001 (2 different versions of that disc) to QH018

QH300 to QH338

QH1000 to QH1013 then FTX1014 to FTX1021 then SS1022 to SS1025;

 

NOTE: 1008 appears as both QH1008 and SS1008 with identical tracks.

 

QH also had two discs B09 and B10 (best of 2009 and 2010) which I have

saved as QHB098 and QHB10

QHC400 to QHC403 then FTXC404 to FTXC417 then SSC416 to SSC455

 

NOTE: 416 & 417 were issued as both FTXC and SSC

 

FTX001 is the same disc as QH338, different company label.

 

There are also QHDUETS and QHXMAS discs in the QH directory.

 

There's a disc in my SS directory listed as SSTS1989 a karaoke version of

Taylor Swifts '1989' album, the label is TS1989 with no brand on it; like

many of the QH/FTX/SS discs the label looks home printed. The person

that sent it to me back in September of 2915 told me it was a new SS

release.

 

It's fairly obvious that QHC, FTXC and SSC discs are all country.

QH19##, FT10## and SS10## are all single-artiste discs.

FTX~~~ discs look to be Pop, same with QH3##, SSP015 label is Pop.

 

I think that I'm 100% on all of those, have a very full few days in front

of me so haven't had the time to check completely, if you need any

then just LM.

OK, so if I understand this correctly and I can follow the map through the three different manufacturers/title changes, My collections are missing

FTX008, FTX009, FTX011 to FTX014 then SSP015 to SSP045, SSP048, SSP053 and beyond.

Also missing FTXC416, FTXC417, SSC416 to SSC446, SSC454, SSC455 then FTX/QH300 - 315, 317 to 321, 339 and beyond, and FTX1020, SS1022 to SS1025.

I also do not have the TS1989 nor any SS19xx discs.

 

Well, I think that is it, but i could have missed something jumping back and fourth between the SS, FTX, QH directories to map them out.

Edited December 8, 2023 by DaedalusWren

[DaveyDee]

 

[Artist] If it's a band name starting with 'The' then I discard 'The' - unless it's The Who or The

The; but the The Jam are just Jam If a band's name starts with 'A' then it stays.

 

 

Could really have fun with tracks by The The...!

 

Not sure I use the best method of coding Downloaded tracks, but on tracks I have downloaded myself I tend to go with the two-letter ID of the label - SF, KV, etc - and add a D so SF becomes SFD, KV becomes KVD, a - and then the track code number where it is identifiable, i.e. 'KVD-12345'. I do not use the numbers given on the downloads for KV, as they are traceable order numbers, I open out the zip files to find the code numbers and use them instead.

 

Companies like MR Entertainer, SBI, VocalStar, etc. who use codes that are 'a bit weird', I try to make them as relateable to the Label as possible - SBI 'G12345' codes I change to 'SBI-12345', etc, and downloaded track codes for disc downloads I generally change to reflect what the codes would be if I had ripped the physical product (when I remember!).

 

These conventions I use for my own purposes. All my files are stored in Manufacturer folders, with sub folders for Downloads alongside the folders for the different sets for working purposes, as I don't actually name track files for the purpose of sharing!

 

 

 

[DaveyDee]

Just uploaded:

MR ENTERTAINER CHART HITS UPDATE WINTER 2023

 

Download and enjoy... If you find this share useful, please remember to use the Like buttons!!!